No, you cannot do both in Mass Effect 3. If the genophage is cured, Mordin dies in the Shroud, and the only way he lives is if you keep the sabotage in place, which means the krogan never get a real cure.
That one surviving path also has strict conditions from the earlier games, including Wrex and Eve both being dead. Here is every outcome and what sets it up.
Every Outcome at the Shroud
The decision comes at the end of Priority: Tuchanka. It starts earlier, when the salarian Dalatrass offers you her fleet if you help her sabotage the cure.
| What you do | The genophage | Mordin |
|---|---|---|
| Tell the krogan about the deal in the convoy | Cured | Dies deploying the cure |
| Stay quiet, then try to stop him with Wrex or Eve alive, and do not shoot | Cured | Dies deploying the cure |
| Stay quiet, then take the Renegade interrupt and shoot him | Not cured, but the krogan believe it is | Dies |
| Stay quiet, with Wrex and Eve both dead, and persuade him | Not cured, but the krogan believe it is | Lives |
What It Takes for Mordin to Live
All of these have to be true:
- Mordin survived the suicide mission in Mass Effect 2. See how to save everyone.
- Wrex is dead, with Wreav leading Clan Urdnot. That happens if Wrex died on Virmire or was never recruited in the first game.
- Eve is dead. That happens if you did not save Maelon’s data in Mordin: Old Blood in Mass Effect 2. Without that data, she dies while you deal with the Reaper at the Shroud.
- You keep quiet in the convoy. Revealing the Dalatrass’s deal locks in the cure.
- You pass the Charm or Intimidate option at the Shroud. Use it to convince him the sabotage is for the best.
If so, Mordin agrees to fake his death and goes off to work on the Crucible. You get his asset (about 25), plus the Salarian First Fleet (about 150).
If Wrex or Eve is alive, this path is closed. Mordin refuses to listen, and your only way to stop him is to shoot him.
If Mordin Died in Mass Effect 2
Padok Wiks, the salarian running the base on Sur’Kesh, takes Mordin’s place in both missions. All of the same outcomes are open with him. If you talk him down, he retires quietly to a colony instead of joining the Crucible project, and the secret goes with him.
What Each Path Costs
| Result | What you gain | What you lose |
|---|---|---|
| Cure, with Wrex and Eve alive | The full krogan assets, including Krogan Mercenaries | Mordin, and the Salarian First Fleet. The STG team from Sur’Kesh is your only salarian asset at this point |
| Cure, with Wreav | Krogan assets, reduced | Mordin, the Salarian First Fleet, and a calmer krogan future |
| Sabotage, with Wrex alive | Salarian First Fleet | Mordin. Wrex finds out in Priority: The Citadel III, confronts Shepard, and dies. Clan Urdnot and Wrex’s own asset are gone |
| Sabotage, with Wreav and no Eve | Krogan and salarian assets, and Mordin alive | The krogan’s future. Wreav never learns the truth |
The numbers point the same way as the story. With Wrex as leader, sabotage puts about 405 at risk (Clan Urdnot, Wrex, and Krogan Mercenaries) to gain a 150-strength fleet, which is a net loss. With Wreav, sabotage brings about 475 across both races, which is why that path only pays off if you already lost Wrex. Our war assets guide has the full numbers.
Before You Start the Mission
Priority: Tuchanka only opens up after Priority: Sur’Kesh, and it cannot finish until you complete either Attican Traverse: Krogan Team or Tuchanka: Turian Platoon.
- Finish your Citadel errands. Priority: The Citadel II begins on your next Citadel visit after this mission, and several side missions close here.
- Keep a save at the convoy. That is your last chance to reveal or hide the deal, and everything else follows from it.
- Watch for the interrupt at the Shroud. The Renegade prompt is how you shoot him, so leave it alone unless you mean it.
The carry-over decisions that set all this up were made one or two games earlier, so you cannot change them from here.
Which Should You Choose?
We would cure it. With Wrex and Eve alive, you get a stable krogan future and more assets than sabotage would bring. It costs you Mordin, and his final scene is the reason to let him go.
Saving him only works on a save where you already lost both Wrex and Eve, and it asks you to lie to an entire species. It is there for a Renegade Shepard, or anyone who will not let him go, and there is no reason to engineer it on a first run.
Frequently Asked Questions
Can you save Mordin and cure the genophage? No. Every outcome where the genophage is cured ends with Mordin dying in the Shroud.
Does Mordin always die in Mass Effect 3? No. He lives if you keep the sabotage and persuade him, with Wrex and Eve both dead.
What if Wrex is alive and I sabotage the cure? He finds out later, confronts Shepard, and dies. You also lose most of the krogan assets he brings.
Can you still save Mordin if Wrex died but Eve lived? No. Mordin will not stay quiet while either of them is alive.
Who replaces Mordin if he died in Mass Effect 2? Padok Wiks. The choices and outcomes are the same.
Does Mordin’s fate change the Citadel DLC? Partly. A datapad from him appears in the Citadel DLC if he died curing the krogan or if you talked him down, but not if you shot him.
Do Wrex and Eve ever mention Mordin again? Yes. If both live through a real cure, they name their first child for him.