To level Engineering in World of Warcraft: Forever, mine or buy ore and stone, turn the stone into blasting powder and the bars into bolts, tubes and casings, and build the cheapest part that still gives skill. Train Journeyman at 50 skill, Expert at 125 and Artisan at 200, and buy a Blacksmith Hammer early, because the Arclight Spanner and many later schematics need one.
Engineering eats more ore than any other profession, so most engineers pair it with Mining. Below are the trainers, a route through every skill band, the materials to save, and what Forever changed for engineers. Blizzard has not published Forever’s skill-up colors, so the switch points are approximate: the Professions window (K) shows whether each craft will still raise your skill.
How Engineering Leveling Works in WoW Forever
Engineering runs from 1 to 300 through Apprentice, Journeyman, Expert and Artisan, and each rank caps your skill until you train the next. Blizzard’s Legacy system overview pays a Legacy Point at 150, 225 and 300 in each crafting profession, once per account.
The route is built on parts: blasting powders from stone, bolts, tubes and casings from bars, and gizmos that later combine into bombs, scopes and gadgets. Keep almost everything you make in the early bands, because the next step usually uses it.
Two Forever changes matter before you start:
- Gnomes lose their head start. In the original game, the Gnome racial gave bonus Engineering skill. Forever’s Gnome Engineering Specialization lowers the chance that your gadgets backfire instead, so Gnomes level at the same pace as everyone else.
- Engineers bring a camp feature. At 20 skill you can place a Reagent Bot at a campfire, which lets nearby players buy reagents, per Blizzard’s camping post. Our camping guide covers how camps work.
Engineering Trainers for Every Rank
| Rank | Skill range | Requirement | Where to train |
|---|---|---|---|
| Apprentice | 1 to 75 | A free primary slot | Engineering trainers in Stormwind, Ironforge, Orgrimmar and the Undercity, plus some starting areas |
| Journeyman | Up to 150 | 50 skill, level 10 | Stormwind (Lilliam Sparkspindle), Ironforge (Trixie Quikswitch), Orgrimmar (Nogg), Undercity (Franklin Lloyd) |
| Expert | Up to 225 | 125 skill, level 20 | Alliance: Springspindle Fizzlegear in Ironforge. Horde: Roxxik in Orgrimmar |
| Artisan | Up to 300 | 200 skill, level 35 | Buzzek Bracketswing in Gadgetzan, Tanaris (both factions) |
Darnassus and Thunder Bluff have no Engineering trainer, so night elves and tauren travel to a neighboring capital. Each trainer has an Engineering Supplies vendor nearby for Weak Flux, Blacksmith Hammers and schematics. These are the original game’s trainers, and Blizzard has not announced any moves.
Engineering Leveling Route
The route uses the original game’s schematics, which are in Forever. Blizzard has not announced changes to them, but Forever adds more than 600 recipes across professions, so if a cheaper schematic shows orange in your window, build it instead.
Apprentice: 1 to 75
- Rough Blasting Powder (1 to about 30). One Rough Stone each. Keep them all.
- Handful of Copper Bolts (about 30 to 50). One Copper Bar each. Keep them.
- Arclight Spanner (50 to 51). Copper Bars and a Blacksmith Hammer in your bags. You need the spanner for most later builds.
- Train Journeyman at 50.
- Rough Copper Bomb (about 51 to 75). Copper Bars, Copper Bolts, Rough Blasting Powder and Linen Cloth.
Journeyman: 75 to 150
- Coarse Blasting Powder (about 75 to 90). Coarse Stone. Keep them.
- Coarse Dynamite (about 90 to 100). Coarse Blasting Powder and Linen Cloth.
- Silver Contact (about 100 to 105). One Silver Bar each.
- Bronze Tube (about 105 to 125). Bronze Bars and Weak Flux from the supply vendor. Do not overmake them: the next steps only need some.
- Train Expert at 125.
- Standard Scope (about 125 to 135). A Bronze Tube and a Moss Agate. Hunters will buy the scopes.
- Heavy Blasting Powder and Whirring Bronze Gizmo (about 135 to 150). Heavy Stone for the powder, Bronze Bars and Wool Cloth for the gizmos. Keep both for the sheep.
Expert: 150 to 225
- Bronze Framework (about 150 to 160). Bronze Bars, Medium Leather and Wool Cloth. Keep them.
- Explosive Sheep (about 160 to 175). Heavy Blasting Powder, Whirring Bronze Gizmos, Bronze Frameworks and Wool Cloth. Keep a few if you plan on Goblin Engineering.
- Solid Blasting Powder (about 175 to 195). Solid Stone. Save them for the bombs later.
- Gyromatic Micro-Adjustor (about 195). Steel Bars. You need it for later gadgets.
- Mithril Tube (about 195 to 200). Mithril Bars. Keep them for Gnomish Engineering schematics.
- Unstable Trigger (about 200 to 215). Mithril Bars, Mageweave Cloth and Solid Blasting Powder. Keep them.
- Mithril Casing (about 215 to 225). Mithril Bars. Keep making these into the next rank.
Artisan: 225 to 300
From here the route is the original game’s Artisan path, and Blizzard has not announced changes to it. Train Artisan from Buzzek Bracketswing in Gadgetzan first.
- Mithril Casing (to about 238). Keep every one for the bombs.
- Hi-Explosive Bomb (about 238 to 250). Mithril Casings, Unstable Triggers and Solid Blasting Powder.
- Dense Blasting Powder (about 250 to 260). Dense Stone.
- Thorium Widget (about 260 to 285). Thorium Bars and Runecloth. The schematic is sold by Engineering Supplies vendors Sovik in Orgrimmar and Gearcutter Cogspinner in Ironforge.
- Thorium Tube (about 285 to 300). Thorium Bars. The schematic is sold by Xizzer Fizzbolt in Everlook, Winterspring.
Gnomish or Goblin Engineering
At 200 skill, engineers can pick a specialization through a quest chain: Gnomish Engineering for odd gadgets such as the World Enlarger and the Ultrasafe Transporter to Gadgetzan, or Goblin Engineering for bigger explosives and the Dimensional Ripper to Everlook. You cannot simply swap later: changing means unlearning Engineering and leveling it again from 1, losing the schematics you bought or found. The route keeps spare Mithril Tubes and Explosive Sheep because the original game’s specialization quests asked for parts like these; Blizzard has not said whether Forever’s quests do.
Tips for Leveling Engineering
- Level Mining alongside it. Every band uses bars or stone, and our best professions for each class guide explains why the pair works for Warriors, Hunters and Rogues.
- Smelt as you go. Smelting raises Mining, not Engineering, but turning ore into bars yourself saves gold at every step.
- Take Working Overtime. This Blizzard Legacy perk raises your chance of a skill-up in every tradeskill; our Legacy Points guide covers how to unlock it.
- Sell what you can. Scopes, bombs and dynamite all have buyers, which offsets the cost of the profession.
Every Forever guide we have is on our World of Warcraft hub, and our professions guide shows how to unlearn a profession if you change your mind.
Frequently Asked Questions
Where do you learn Artisan Engineering in WoW Forever? From Buzzek Bracketswing in Gadgetzan, Tanaris. He trains both factions and needs 200 skill and level 35.
Do Gnomes still get bonus Engineering skill? No. In Forever, the Gnome Engineering Specialization racial lowers the chance that gadgets backfire instead of adding skill.
Do you need Mining for Engineering? No, but it saves a lot of gold. Almost every step uses bars or stone.
When can you choose Gnomish or Goblin Engineering? At 200 Engineering skill, through a quest chain. Switching later means releveling Engineering from 1.
What is the max Engineering skill in WoW Forever? 300, at Artisan rank.
Does Engineering give Legacy Points? Yes, at 150, 225 and 300 skill, once per account.